It is easy to see fascism in violent demonstrations, but what about more mundane examples?
- Attacks on Muslims and other minority groups.
- Organized attacks on public education.
- Proposals for a mercenary army.
- Private prisons.
- Border walls.
- Militant militias.
- Personal arsenals.
- KKK
- Attacks on reporters and publishers.
- Racism.
- Nativism.
- Anti-semitism.
- Militarism.
- America first.
- Legislation intended to restrict voting rights.
- Right to work legislation.
- Excuses for police brutality.
- Tax loopholes for corporations particularly in light of unlimited money in politics.
Fascism unites big business and government against the people. Even in its less virulent forms, it is dangerous and endemic among us–as American as apple pie.
https://www.arcamax.com/politics/fromtheleft/leonardpittsjr/s-1988027
New NY 23rd 
It’s kind of like high tide, isn’t it?
A little bit at a time. Each so small as to be insignificant. Unnoticeable and unremarkable.
But eventually one cannot ignore it.
Thank you very much for this post.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/19790/more-leftist-overreach-leftists-media-compare-ben-shapiro?utm_source=shapironewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=081617-news-title&utm_campaign=lead
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/19761/no-isnt-what-democracy-looks-ben-shapiro?utm_source=shapironewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=081617-news-title&utm_campaign=three
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https://thehornnews.com/ben-carsons-house-attacked-alt-left-outrage/
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This is hilarious stuff:
“The fact is that anti-fascist violence by Communists helped drive Hitler into power. It helped promote Mussolinia’s regime. Antifa’s tactics help the alt-right by allowing them to proclaim themselves victims of violence, defenders against the red horde.”
Yeah, the people who started Charlotteseville with a torch march were driven to it by the people who stood up to them.
And the people in body armor, helmets, Trump signs and semi automatic weapons were scared of people in t-shirts and shorts.
give me a break..
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More hilarity
Graffiti painted on a house = woman run over by car.
Keep them coming!
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Now we are entering the twilight zone…
“The Right believes in the first form of democracy; our picture of democracy is the voting booth. ”
Yeah.
Gerrymandering and voter supression are both efforts to foster a representative democracy.
The rest of the piece is just as worthless.
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Arthur, unfortunately you are so closed minded it is impossible to have an open and honest discuss or debate with you. However, I will always defend your Right to spew forth you closed minded nonsense. Good day sir.
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Arthur,
Who is responsible and who benefits for which time period of gerrymandering ? The last time redistricting was done in NY State was 2011 after teh 2010 consensus. We had a Democrat Governor and Democrat controlled NY State Legislature. The GOP may have held a one seat margin in the State Senate. The redistricting that was done was done by Democrats to meet population requirements. Redistricting can benefit both teh Democrat and Republican Parties. Usually not the voters.
https://ballotpedia.org/Redistricting_in_New_York
What specific examples of voter suppression do you think are being employed ?
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Most Constitutionalists, Conservatives and Libertarian minded folks can see the hate speech and violent actions from many of the hate groups on both sides.
A good listen and a good read
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19725/shapiro-national-review-america-has-twin-cancers-ben-shapiro?utm_source=shapironewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=081517-news-title&utm_campaign=lead
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The Charlottesville violence was a total failure by design by the Governor of VA and the Mayor of Charlottesville, VA
Some very interesting observations & opinions on Charlottesville, VA
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In 2011, NYS redistricting was done by the legislature as usual–the Assembly created Assembly districts that favored Democrats; the Senate created Senate districts that favored Republicans. As noted, the public interest wasn’t a factor. Our congressional district, NY-23, was created by a Federal Court when the legislature couldn’t agree.
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August 17, 2017
Today, August 17, you provided links to 5 articles from known right wing news organizations
Article 1 by The Daily Wire blasted the LEFT for the removal of a single statue in Durham : “the Left has returned to one of its favorite pastimes: tearing down statues and defacing public property. ” It’s a simple editorial piece, based on a single incident to prosecute a broad policy.
Article 2 by The Daily Wire blasted the LEFT for castigating Trump for his abysmal statements on Tuesday. Again, an editorial piece.
Article 3, again by the daily wire, blasted the LEFT for ‘mob politics’, again, an editorial piece.
Article 4, by TheHornNews, accused the alt-left of vandalizing Ben Carson’s Virginia home.There was no evidence presented in the article to back up the assertion.
Article 5 – AGAIN by the Daily Wire (I am sensing a pattern) blasting the LEFT for standing up to the Nazis in Charlottesville, VA and identifying the counter protesters as having members of the Marxist Antifa. Without any evidence. Another editorial piece.
The Daily Wire is a well known conservative news and opinion website. is a news and opinion blog with an extreme right bias in reporting. Virtually, all stories are pro-right and anti-left.
You present ONE point of view from two known right wing organizations. Consistently the LEFT IS BAD. And aver that you are interested in an open and honest discuss(sic)? LOL
And then you call me close minded? LOL
Just like Trump, you insult and run away. LOL
You used to be a mere annoyance.
NOW you are entertainment!
Pray, continue!
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I’d love to discuss this with you, but you have told me:”it is impossible to have an open and honest discuss or debate with you.’
So why waste your time and mine?
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More junk.
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More Junk
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Here is an interesting, germane and timely article:
TITLE:
Gerrymandering is the biggest obstacle to genuine democracy in the United States. So why is no one protesting?
http://wapo.st/2lzChH3?tid=ss_mail&utm_term=.024edd00147e
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Here’s a great one:
The Republicans who want to legalize running over protesters
http://wapo.st/2fPPzkn?tid=ss_mail&utm_term=.7ff611279795
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A specious argument that is now making the rounds and supported by President Donald Trump is that many sides are responsible for the violence in the country today. Many sides.
And this argument has grown legs and people are now equating anti-fascists with fascists.
This is dangerous to us all.
On Saturday, August 12, 2017, thousands of young Americans marched through the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia chanting hate-filled slogans like, “Blood and soil,” and “Jews will not replace us,” and carrying the swastika flag. They clashed with protesters and caused dozens of injuries. A car plowed into a crowd of people protesting the white supremacist demonstration, killing one person and injuring many more.
Donald Trump said that all were equally responsible: those who marched under the Nazi banner, and those who opposed them. All equal. Nazis and anti-Nazis. But how is that possible? How can it be that in 2017, the President of the United States, a country that fought Hitler’s Germany and sacrificed hundreds of thousands of its young men in order to ensure its ultimate defeat, could not or would not bring himself to condemn Americans who marched under the flag of the Third Reich?
What does it mean to march under the swastika flag? What does the swastika flag symbolize? What did it mean to the people who hoisted it in Germany—the people who inspired the Americans who marched this weekend in Charlottesville?
Those who inspired the marchers in Charlottesville marched through the streets of Germany, provoking violence, and singing “when Jewish blood spurts from the knife.”
Those who inspired the marchers destroyed democracy and eliminated all civil liberties in Germany.
Those who inspired the marchers demonized Jewish citizens, physically assaulted them, removed them from all aspects of public life, stripped them of their rights, their property, their very ability to survive in the only country they had ever called home.
Those who inspired the marchers carried out the biggest pogrom in modern German history, destroying 267 synagogues, vandalizing Jewish businesses, attacking Jews in their homes, and killing hundreds, all in a single night in November 1938.
They demonized and physically attacked political opponents, homosexuals, Roma and Sinti, the handicapped, and any others they considered outside the boundaries of the German racial community.
They murdered more than 70,000 men, women, and children—German citizens!—who had been diagnosed with mental and physical disabilities in just two years between 1939 and 1941.
They started the most destructive war in the history of the world, causing the deaths of tens of millions of people, mostly innocent civilians.
They murdered more than 33,000 Jews in just two days at Babi Yar, outside Kiev, Ukraine in 1941.
They shot one million unarmed Jewish civilians—men, women, and children—across Eastern Europe in just the last six months of 1941.
They murdered close to three million Jews in the gas chambers of Chelmno, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Majdanek, and Auschwitz.
They enslaved millions of people—Jews and non-Jews—from across Europe to work for their war of conquest.
They fought to destroy the most basic values that America has claimed to stand for over more than two centuries: the fundamental dignity and equality of all people.
If the President of the United States cannot condemn individuals who march under the flag of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, how can he possibly claim to represent America, its values, and all of its citizens? In perhaps the easiest test of his young presidency, Donald Trump has failed, and failed miserably.
We have a choice to make. We can be fascists.
Or we can be anti-fascists.
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I remember well Vietnam war times when people would threaten to run over anyone who dared lie down in front of their car. You could burn your draft card, make love with their sons and daughters, just don’t block traffic
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That’s great!
And you jogged my memory.
I was actually arrested once on a lawful picket line during a strike.
The charge?
Blocking Traffic.
Thrown out when it got to court.
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I was once informed, in accordance with a court order, that the State Police had made a record of an automobile registered in my name being seen in a church parking lot where a political meeting was taking place. What were they thinking? Would they have arrested me on the basis of that? The police were ordered to cease such activities, but I have doubts that they did. Today, the illegal snoops probably are noting our activities on the internet.
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A Blast from the Past:
And very appropriate today
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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http://constitution.com/radical-left-now-assaulting-civil-war-re-enactors-pepper-spray/
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CNN Commentator Calls for Washington/Jefferson Statues to Come Down
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More crap..
from the article
“The left tends to blame long dead southerners for the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, a piece of opinion that defies the logic of even the most ignorant of Americans. In this pursuit, the left has targeted the history of the American Civil War as their newest target for extermination. While liberals have long had it out for the Confederate flag, this new frontier in their war of perception aims to completely nullify and and all attempts at discussing the historic significance of the event.”
Safe to ignore.
Don’t waste your time
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black lives matter in action
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Wow.
Thanks for reminding me how much some people hate black people.
BLACK LIVES MATTER!
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ANTIFA hate speech protected by the Constitution and violence that is not protected
La Raza hate speech protected by the Constitution and violence that is not protected
Anti-American Hate Groups we all should be aware of ;
Neo-Nazis
Nazis
KKK
White Supremacists
ANTIFA
Black Lives Matter
Social Justice Warriors
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Arthur,
You are going to have to work on your reading and listening comprehension skills. They are seriously and sorely lacking.
This has nothing to do with race as there are black lives matter members who are white.
Most people do not like violence and hate speech.
black lives matter preaches, promotes and encourages hate speech and violence. Most people do not like this. Most people do not like black lives matter’s message, words or actions.
You are still going strong with Saul Alinsky’s rule to keep telling a lie often enough until people believe it. (Rules For Radicals)
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The Department of Homeland Security declares leftist group ANTIFA a domestic terroeist organization
http://yournewswire.com/dhs-antifa-terrorist-organization/
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This thread has gone way off topic.
But since the moderators seem to be giving wide latitude,
Let’s talk about my favorite Nazi!
Crying Chris Cantwell!
The darling of the far right!
https://www.dailydot.com/upstream/chris-cantwell-white-nationalist-stephen-colbert/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/17/christopher-cantwell-cries-video/578227001/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/08/18/the-rise-and-humiliating-fall-of-charlottesvilles-starring-fascist
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/17/terrified-white-nationalist-christopher-cantwell-cries-video/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/white-supremacist-cries-after-realizing-he-could-be-arrested/
http://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacist-ready-violence-cries-charlottesville-arrest-warrant-651682
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Rynstone says:
August 17, 2017 at 1:39 pm
Arthur, unfortunately you are so closed minded it is impossible to have an open and honest discuss or debate with you. However, I will always defend your Right to spew forth you closed minded nonsense. Good day sir.
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Yeah.
Reported by Alex Jones and InfoWars.
The same conspiracy nut who, among other wild nutty charges, called Obama “the global head of Al-Qaeda”
Nothing on the DHS site confirms this wild accusation.
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