Trump to Upstate NYers: Move!

President Trump, in an interview in the Wall Street Journal, claims that there are states that are increasing manufacturing jobs (Wisconsin, Iowa, and Colorado). He then said:

“You’re going to need people to work in these massive plants,” Trump said. “I’m going to start explaining to people: When you have an area that just isn’t working like upper New York state, where people are getting very badly hurt, and then you’ll have another area 500 miles away where you can’t get people, I’m going to explain, you can leave. It’s OK. Don’t worry about your house.”

Rick Gallant, one of the five announced Democratic candidates trying to unseat Rep. Reed, quickly responded to the Trump’s comment:

“We’re not abandoning Upstate New York. It’s just not an option. That sort of rhetoric is dangerous and demonstrates just how out of touch with mainstream America our President really is. Instead of tearing down the Southern Tier and Western New York, we’re going to roll up our sleeves and rebuild it. Our congressman’s silence on these remarks speaks volumes.”

Rep. Reed’s silence?

Googling articles about Trump’s moving suggestion in the Buffalo News, Syracuse, and other newspapers   I found that Rep. Chris Collins, Rep. John Katko, Rep. Claudia Tenny and other Upstate Representatives had responded to Trump’s comments. Rep. Reed had not. Checking his Facebook pages and his Twitter account, Rep. Reed has yet to defend his jobs record, nor has he agreed or disagreed with the President’s vision having us migrate west like Steinbeck’s Joad Family did in The Grapes of Wrath.

Even though Gallant responded directly to Trump’s Upstate New York put down, but the other four candidates have spoken earlier about their concerns of the NY23rd job situation:

Eddie Sundquist of Jamestown said that coming back home after college, two years of teaching and law school to practice law said he realized the area “slowly became the land that time forgot.”

“We were promised a lot of different things like the Buffalo Billion trickle down and money at the federal level from our representatives,” he said. “We never received those things. We continue to see people leave and manufacturers and jobs leave. A lot of it made me upset to see that we don’t have a representative to jump into the middle of that and help make this a better place.”–Jamestown Post Standard

Ian Golden, small business owner and another Democratic Congressional Candidate has also talked about jobs:

“My Representative will have occasional photoshoots for media exposure, spins on why tax cuts to the wealthy and deregulation of banks help business in this country, fast tracks for fossil fuel projects with little long-term economic injection, an absence of vision for how to bring living wage jobs back to our communities, connection with the issues that really matter to our farms and vineyards, or the ability to plan for the rapid changes occurring in technology.” –Golden’s website

Candidate Max Della Pia, a retired Air Force Officer from Owego, relate jobs and immigration, and that he:

“understands the necessity for migrant workers to fill vacancies given by local workers. He thinks a program needs to be established to provide that labor pool while also being fair and equitable for the workers as well.”–Ithaca Times

The fifth candidate, John Hertzler, actor and Ulysses Town Councilman, wants to bring manufacturing jobs back from overseas.

“People say the jobs aren’t coming back. In my opinion, that’s B.S. There’s a lot of people that want to do those jobs here in this country and we need to bring them back. It irritates the hell out of me when people give up and sell out. ” Ithaca Times.

I am not certain that President Trump’s view that Wisconsin, Iowa and Colorado really do have the need or desire to have thousands of New Yorkers move into their states and take their jobs. It sounds more like an empty success story that Trump likes to uses to misinform his base supporters.

It is important to respond to Trump’s claims. Fight fake news with facts.

About pystew

Retired Teacher, political science geek, village trustee. I lean a little left, but like a good political discussion. My blog, the New NY 23rd (http://newny23rd) is about discussing the issues facing the people of our new congressional district. Let's hear all sides of the issues, not just what the candidates want us to hear.
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18 Responses to Trump to Upstate NYers: Move!

  1. pystew says:

    If Reed’s manufacturing summits were successful why would Trump dismiss the potential of Upstate New York? Look at Reed’s dismal record of having his proposals even make it out of committees. Sad.

    Ian Golden said above: “Reed will have occasional photoshoots for media exposure, spins on why tax cuts to the wealthy and deregulation of banks help business in this country…” sounds like this Manufacturing Summit.


  2. Arthur Ahrens says:

    I can’t answer why Trump does anything.
    And I did not say that his summits were successful.
    But he’s held quite a few. And gotten great publicity.

    Sure, Reed has an awful record. Which he ignores in his advertising.
    He serves on the Ways and Means Committee.
    He serves on the Subcommittee on Health.
    He serves on the Subcommittee on Human Resources
    He serves on the Subcommittee on Trade
    He’s a member of that 40 member bipartisan committee looking for answers.
    Pretty powerful advertising.

    And no democratic / indivisible presence at Reed’s summit.
    Another missed opportunity for dems.
    Reed continues his march to reelection in 2018.


  3. whungerford says:

    The FLT article on the “Manufacturing Summit” gives no details on any specific proposal to promote manufacturing. Tom Reed poses as an expert but speaks in generalities. This isn’t surprising as Tom Reed, a lawyer, has no experience or education in manufacturing. His current focus on local manufacturers promotes his image as “one of us.”


  4. whungerford says:

    Linking Reed to Trump failed in 2016 which makes me suspicious of that strategy for 2018. I got an automated phone call recently seeking my opinion on Donald Trump. What interests paid for that call wasn’t revealed. I wonder if it was Tom Reed’s survey.


  5. Arthur Ahrens says:

    What Reed and his staff do really, really well.
    With no fear of rebuttal.

    Liked by 1 person

  6. Maureen Harding says:

    Tom Reed’s only intention is to retain his seat at all costs. He never has nor will he ever create an appreciable job or economic growth in the NY23 CD. If we want jobs, we must create our own self sustaining local industries. Stop relying on Government to create jobs. This policy is now long obsolete.


  7. Carol says:

    Reed keeps all his events a secret until after they happen, or Dems and Indivisible would be there.


  8. Arthur Ahrens says:

    Not always.
    I know of 2 that were telegraphed way in advance. One was in Corning.
    They were ignored.
    In any event, better intelligence is needed.


  9. Arthur Ahrens says:

    A Washington Post opinion piece supporting Trump’s view:


  10. pystew says:

    Thanks for the link, Arthur. I find it important to note that it brings up that Trump singled out Upstate NY, that there are other areas that are worst far worst off and mentions Kentucky and other areas. I still stay with Candidate Rick Gallant’s comment that we should not give up on getting good jobs Upstate, and blames Reed’s efforts in improving our jobs situation. Reed goes through the motions, but like his lack of success in getting his bills passed into laws, he lacks success in improving our jobs potential.


  11. whungerford says:

    We know how to create jobs–invest in infrastructure and public health for example. However,Tom Reed is clueless.


  12. Arthur Ahrens says:

    You are welcome for the link. I hope that you enjoyed it.

    That said, I feel that I must comment on your, “I still stay with Candidate Rick Gallant’s comment that we should not give up on getting good jobs Upstate, and blames Reed’s efforts in improving our jobs situation.”

    The Republicans spent 8 looooong rears blaming Democrats for negligence and incompetence. Yet they have proven unable to govern even when controlling the Senate, the House and the Presidency.

    I strongly agree that we should not give up on getting good jobs upstate. But blaming the incumbent for incompetence or worse will not get my vote.

    So far, none of the Democratic candidates for NY-29’s congressional seat has provided any plan for improving the job situation in upper NY state. All I see is blame.

    They’ll have to do better than that if they want my vote. I need to know that the Democrats can govern.

    Have the Democrats learned nothing from the Republican mess?


  13. Arthur Ahrens says:

    oops — meant NY 23.


  14. Arthur Ahrens says:

    Reed is clueless in your paradigm. He is an absolute genius in his.

    It is now, and ever will be about Reed getting reelected.

    A strong Democratic presence in NY – 23 might move Reed towards actually accomplishing something. Until that time, it is all smoke, mirrors and a dog and pony show.

    And that’s all that’s needed for him to get reelected.


  15. Arthur Ahrens says:

    Labor groups step up pressure on Trump to deliver – The Washington Post

    Labor leaders, once courted by President Trump, are stepping up their campaign to turn workers against the White House if it does not deliver more on jobs and trade — and if it does not stop undoing Obama-era regulations.

    The most visible effort, which starts in Indianapolis on Monday afternoon, is a two-week tour organized by the coalition Good Jobs Nation that ropes in labor-friendly politicians. The coalition, launched in 2013 to pressure Barack Obama’s White House on trade and wage issues, is organizing rallies throughout the Midwest through Labor Day.

    “Trump ran as a working-class hero, so let’s look at the results,” said Joseph Geevarghese, Good Jobs Nation’s executive director. “We’re seven months into his administration, and wages are flat. People are still getting pink slips.”

    The Indianapolis rally, which will feature Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), is designed to highlight the complicated aftermath of an early Trump coup for workers — a deal that delayed layoffs at a Carrier plant in nearby Huntington. In December, Trump came to Indiana to announce that Carrier would lay off only a few hundred of its 1,400-odd workers, thanks to the state’s promise of $700,000 per year in tax breaks to the company and a presidential promise of corporate tax reform.

    “Companies are not going to leave the United States anymore without consequences,” Trump said.

    Nine months later, Carrier is well into cutting 632 jobs — more cuts than the president had promised. Chuck Jones Chuck Jones,who represented Carrier workers as president of United Steelworkers Local 1999, said that even workers who voted for Trump have learned not to trust him.

    “He made promises to working-class people,” said Jones, who will also speak at Monday’s rally. “He said that if he were president, that jobs would not be leaving this country. Guess what? They still are. He could be signing executive orders. He’s not lifting a finger.”

    As the White House eagerly points out, the economy has seen steady job growth every month since Trump took office. Wages have ticked up 0.7 percent in the past year, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — in line with the increasing cost of living. Trump’s Republican base, meanwhile, has become overwhelmingly positive about the economy, with consumer confidence and the employment rate ticking up to 16-year highs.

    Labor leaders, who watched their members break Republican at historic levels last year, however, increasingly suspect that the administration will squander those gains by ignoring actions that could increase wages.

    The Trump administration has undone or walked away from a number of regulations that labor lobbied for, and won, under Obama, including one that required companies to disclose labor law violations before bidding on big government contracts and one that made 4.2 million more workers eligible for overtime pay.

    Instead, the administration has synced up with congressional Republicans in rolling back regulations on business, with the expectation that job growth will ensue.

    Skeptics in labor and the left see a political opening. After pummeling the Obama administration for steady but slow growth, Trump is bragging about an economy that is exhibiting virtually the same characteristics. Stephen K. Bannon, the political adviser who dreamed of the GOP becoming a “workers’ party” that plowed money into infrastructure, is out of the administration with little of that vision achieved. administration with little of that vision achieved.

    “People feel, appropriately, that the political and economic establishments have left them behind,” Sanders said in an interview. “They ignored people while jobs went to Mexico. We’ve got a chance to be heard, and we’ve got to use that chance to explain what a progressive economic agenda is all about. We want a $15 minimum wage. Donald Trump has said wages should explain what a progressive economic agenda is all about. We want a $15 minimum wage. Donald Trump has said wages should be lower. And that’s our point.”

    The Good Jobs Nation tour, which will part with Sanders after Indianapolis, will make stops in other Midwestern cities to ask why the administration hasn’t done more. In Wisconsin, it will team up with Randy Bryce, a Democrat and labor organizer running there against House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R). There, labor leaders will argue against a Trump-backed deal to entice the Taiwanese company Foxconn in exchange for $3 billion in subsidies $3 billion in subsidies . .

    In other cities, activists will ask Trump to back an executive order to keep call centers in the United States by punishing outsourcers.

    “We sent a letter on this to Trump a while ago, and he hasn’t even responded,” said Chris Shelton, president of the Communications Workers of America. “He should sign the executive order. If companies are going to send their jobs overseas, consumers should have the right to ask for a call center in the United States. If they’re not going to provide one, and provide those jobs, they should not be relying on tax dollars for their bottom line.”

    Organizers of the tour were skeptical that the president would sign on to proposals backed by unions but opposed by business. groups. If he did, they said, they’d take the victory — and take a lesson in what sort of public pressure worked on on a president much more prone to reaction than Obama. much more prone to reaction than Obama.

    “When me and Trump got sideways,” Jones said, “it got kicked up to a higher level.”


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