Tom Reed in West Elmira Jan. 31, 2015

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Tom Reed spoke to about 20 people at the Elmira Town Hall on Jan. 31, 2015; seven wore AARP shirts. Here are some notes I took during the meeting.

Tom’s monologue:

Defense of Property

  • NYS fracking ban represents government overreach.
  • The Fifth Amendment requires compensation when property is “taken.”

Rules of the House:

(Tom sponsored a change to the House rules to force the Obama Administration to wait for Congress to “reform” Social Security Disability Insurance.)

  • SSDI bankrupt now.
  • Won’t steal from SS to fund SSDI.
  • SSDI only for the “catastrophically disabled.”
  • Wants those who can to work.
  • Redefine disability.
  • Reduce waste.

Tom said he expects the rule change to force Congress to confront the issue of SSDI funding. Tom mentioned a proposal to fund SSDI with short term borrowing from the treasury to be repaid from payroll taxes. Tom said he might support this idea which evidently presumes that benefits would be cut.

Questions and Answers:

The AARP seeks to make Elmira an age-friendly community. To this end, they are interested in government promoted health research. Tom’s answer: “budgets are tight.” One person gave his opinion that government only wastes money.

In response to a question on defense of property, Tom said he rejected overriding state law. Instead his bill would compel the state to compensate landowners forcing NYS to give up the fracking ban or shoulder an impossible financial burden.

A women complained that the Earned Income Tax Credit is too generous because not all income is counted. She wants veterans benefits, SSDI, and other such income to be counted.

Paolo Cremidis asked about student loan debt. This was followed by a confused discussion including the following points:

  • A person said “liberals fund liberals,” and “starve universities to force them to cut costs.”
  • Another person said sports are a distraction according to the Communist Manifesto. She also noted that the cold war isn’t over as she claimed Martha Robertson has said.
  • Tom complained that college administrators and coaches are paid too much.

There was a confused discussion of Russia and Ukraine.

Tom concluded that rising costs for labor in other countries, America’s rule of law, and American energy production are spurring American industry. He said the market, not the government, is responsible for economic recovery.

The meeting lasted about 70 minutes. There was a four page handout. The first page listed Tom’s ideas for job creation:

  • National Debt reduction.
  • Removing excessive regulation.
  • Streamlining the tax code.
  • Implementing a comprehensive domestic energy plan.

The other three pages were charts:

  • Pie chart showing government spending categories.
  • Projected interest cost on national debt shown rising by 400% in ten years (no specific source given).
  • “What drives our debt?” Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, and interest on the National Debt. Revenues are shown as a constant percentage of the economy (national income?).

© William Hungerford – January 2015


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8 Responses to Tom Reed in West Elmira Jan. 31, 2015

  1. Anne says:

    Weirdly, I find myself in agreement with Tom about college coaches, although I know the justification for that is always that sports brings in contributions and so forth. I’m not sure whether I agree with the comment re: sports, distraction, Communist Manifesto. Did you happen to take notes about the Russia/Ukraine discussion?


  2. whungerford says:

    On Ukraine, Tom said that Russian President Putin is aggressive and dangerous. He noted that economic sanctions and falling natural gas prices are creating difficulties in the Russian economy. One person said that Crimea is historically Russian, and that Russia, a nuclear power, should not be pushed too hard. Tom said that he anticipates that Ukraine might divide into two countries along ethnic lines.


  3. whungerford says:

    Searching for “sports Communist Manifesto” turns up the likely source of this connection which involves “eminent domain.”


  4. Anne says:

    Ah, yes, I see The Blaze is first in line on that search. I need read no further.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Deb Meeker says:

    Thanks for your report.
    Better you than me. You at least have the ability to sit silently as you feel your brain cells die, one by one. I have the feeling that Reed sent out notices to all the most uninformed people on his mailing list, and hoped that giving less than twenty-four hours notice to the rest of us – would give him this type of result.
    Other than the topic of his push for government to start giving welfare to landowners with gas leases, he could have sent a recording of his 2012 stump speech, charts and all.


  6. Maureen Harding says:

    Projections are just projections; not a crystal ball.

    Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid have absolutely nothing to do with the Federal Budget! He is trying to obfuscate the truth of the matter and that is Social Security and Medicare are a dedicated tax taken from wages or compensation for services. Tom Reed is using deceit to make a crisis that doesn’t exist. He does not support economic security of hard working Americans or those who are disabled. He is surely not one of us.


  7. SS, Medicare and Medicaid are 100% paid for by payroll taxes. This is separate from income taxes that generate tax revenue!

    Both workers AND employers pay payroll taxes.

    The real budget is funded by Income Tax Revenues and Excise Taxes.

    Expenditures of the real budget (outside of SS, Medicare and Medicaid) are $1.437 trillion. 44.3% goes to the Military, 16% to Interest on the Debt (Banksters), and 5.4% goes to “Welfare” – housing subsidies, food stamps and other


  8. whungerford says:

    At a townhall meeting in West Elmira in December, 2013, Tom explained to me that he disagrees with the views of professional economists relying instead on his own beliefs. Thus he sees spending for whatever purpose, especially public spending, as a drain on the economy rather than a necessary and vital part of it.


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